At least one proposal comes close. They ban new assualt rifles, which isn’t as big of a deal as far as I’m concerned, but they DO propose reclassifying existing assault rifles as NFA weapons, to be registered same as machine guns.
You’ve confused advertising and look-alikes, which are not semi-auto versions. A frequent mistake, as is confusing assault rife and assault weapon. The former are NFA items, the latter look like them but are not. (Note that there were semi-auto versions of assault rifles (nb assault rifles are either full auto or burst auto) allowed as imports between the GCA ’68 and the redefinition of “sporting” in ’89; those are are all now NFA items, and should have been registered as such, whether modified or not.)
Most revolvers are banned as well, under the “removable magazine” idea, as they can be loaded with moon clips or by changing cylinders. Unintended consequences. Most hunters use non-removable magazines? [citation required] If you look closer, many box magazines in the 3-7 round capacity are removable, they just don’t protrude from the stock. This is a safety feature, making it easier to completely unload the firearm. Pop the magazine, cycle the bolt, check, done; vs cycle cycle cycle cycle cycle cycle pick up the rounds you didn’t catch, check, and done.
I’d be fine if anything with a detachable magazine were regulated more like an NFA, at which point, the word games of assault rifle versus assault weapon become irrelevant.
htom: “Most revolvers are banned as well,”
Now you’re just being silly. I’ve said before, I don’t want to ban anything. I’m perfectly fine with belt fed machine guns being privately owned as long as they’re regulated and registered and people who have them pass background checks and such.
And revolver cylinders aren’t “removable” by any normal sense of the word. The point is to slow down reload speed.
“Most hunters use non-removable magazines? [citation required]”
Personal experience. 22 rimfire with tubular magazine. 30-30 with a tubular magazine. 30-06 with a fixed magazine. 12 guage shotgun with tubular magazine.
Yes, you COULD hunt with a removable magazine if you do the paperwork. But if a hunter is paranoid about the paperwork, they can still hunt with fixed magazine weapons.
My experience is that if you NEED a removable magazine to go hunting, then you’re probably doing it wrong. If you’ve missed after 6 shots, maybe you should take a breather and reload before trying again.
“This is a safety feature, making it easier to completely unload the firearm.”
Tubular magazines are pretty much the defacto mechanism on all shotguns, all 30-30′s, and a lot of .22 rimfire rifles (the ruger 10-22 being an famous counter example). And yes, you have to unload them one-at-a-time. It does NOT in my experience make the weapons any less safe.
Greg | 01-Feb-13 at 5:43 am | Permalink
A gun-nut walks into a grocery store with an AR15:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/man-brings-ar-15-kroger-grocery-store_n_2567295.html
Tom Tomorrow captures the stupidity perfectly:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/28/1181981/-Gun-talk
Greg | 07-Feb-13 at 3:09 pm | Permalink
At least one proposal comes close. They ban new assualt rifles, which isn’t as big of a deal as far as I’m concerned, but they DO propose reclassifying existing assault rifles as NFA weapons, to be registered same as machine guns.
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=10993387-5d4d-4680-a872-ac8ca4359119
htom | 28-Apr-13 at 9:37 am | Permalink
New assault rifles have been banned since the GCA ’68. Even semi-auto versions of them were banned in ’89. Assault rifles are already NFA weapons.
Oh, you meant assault weapons?
Greg | 28-Apr-13 at 10:42 am | Permalink
semi-auto versions banned? Not anymore.
http://www.thenation.com/article/171810/five-assault-rifles-you-can-pick-walmart-photos
htom | 28-Apr-13 at 11:15 am | Permalink
You’ve confused advertising and look-alikes, which are not semi-auto versions. A frequent mistake, as is confusing assault rife and assault weapon. The former are NFA items, the latter look like them but are not. (Note that there were semi-auto versions of assault rifles (nb assault rifles are either full auto or burst auto) allowed as imports between the GCA ’68 and the redefinition of “sporting” in ’89; those are are all now NFA items, and should have been registered as such, whether modified or not.)
htom | 28-Apr-13 at 12:38 pm | Permalink
Most revolvers are banned as well, under the “removable magazine” idea, as they can be loaded with moon clips or by changing cylinders. Unintended consequences. Most hunters use non-removable magazines? [citation required] If you look closer, many box magazines in the 3-7 round capacity are removable, they just don’t protrude from the stock. This is a safety feature, making it easier to completely unload the firearm. Pop the magazine, cycle the bolt, check, done; vs cycle cycle cycle cycle cycle cycle pick up the rounds you didn’t catch, check, and done.
Greg | 28-Apr-13 at 9:03 pm | Permalink
htom: “assault rife and assault weapon.”
I’d be fine if anything with a detachable magazine were regulated more like an NFA, at which point, the word games of assault rifle versus assault weapon become irrelevant.
htom: “Most revolvers are banned as well,”
Now you’re just being silly. I’ve said before, I don’t want to ban anything. I’m perfectly fine with belt fed machine guns being privately owned as long as they’re regulated and registered and people who have them pass background checks and such.
And revolver cylinders aren’t “removable” by any normal sense of the word. The point is to slow down reload speed.
“Most hunters use non-removable magazines? [citation required]”
Personal experience. 22 rimfire with tubular magazine. 30-30 with a tubular magazine. 30-06 with a fixed magazine. 12 guage shotgun with tubular magazine.
Yes, you COULD hunt with a removable magazine if you do the paperwork. But if a hunter is paranoid about the paperwork, they can still hunt with fixed magazine weapons.
My experience is that if you NEED a removable magazine to go hunting, then you’re probably doing it wrong. If you’ve missed after 6 shots, maybe you should take a breather and reload before trying again.
“This is a safety feature, making it easier to completely unload the firearm.”
Tubular magazines are pretty much the defacto mechanism on all shotguns, all 30-30′s, and a lot of .22 rimfire rifles (the ruger 10-22 being an famous counter example). And yes, you have to unload them one-at-a-time. It does NOT in my experience make the weapons any less safe.